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  Sun 27 Dec 2009 - 4:17  #
Hi everyone,

For those who think that priest is not THE best mass healer of World of Warcraft anymore. worship I'd like to share those screenshots.

All the last raids we noticed that I used to heal at least 1 million more than the second with a decent overhealing rate.

I'd like to thank my guild for all your time that you spent to build my gear. And my skill (yeah Warlock can tank!!)

Afterglow, Cow healer.


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  Sun 27 Dec 2009 - 21:12  #
Who said priests were not good healers ?'


Source : used to heal for more than 3K/sec in SW. What else ?
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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 4:20  #
How can I check my xK/sec Hirna? Is it inside recount?
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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 6:52  #
it's the number next to your total healing (1367.2).
Hirna I suspect your 3000HPS to come from the twins battle where everyone stacks and the priests holy nova the whole raid at once Smile

Last day I was in a BT gold caus most people of our guild aren't online caus of christmas and stuff, and in the end the raid leader gave 200 golds to the number 1 healer on healing meter, but I think that was stupid, even if that was me who got them Wink, caus you cannot compare healing and dps meter.

For exemple druids will always have the lowest healing because hots doesn't overheal, and most of their heals are nullified by the other healers direct heals. Then there is the role attribution, were you raid healing? Tank healing? Then the spec( for priest : disc or holy?)

Each healers have their own strengh and weakness :
Paly: +hudge healing Burst(best tank healer) -no aoe heal
Druid: +Best raid healers -little healing burst
Shaman: +raid healers and brings a lots of buff -not mana efficient if using other spell than chain-heal
Priest: +the versatile healer, can take any role in the raid but doesn't do it as well as the other classes(but 5 priest healing in your raid is viable, 5 pallies or 5 druids isn't)

Personnaly if I step in a 25man raid as holy paly and I don't see a priest I don't feel safe. Not because they are first at healing meter, but because they really are efficient healers.

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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 6:55  #
It's not because priests are the best healers, it's because

AG roxx
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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 7:18  #
@Hirna, how can U reach 3K? I did put all my guts in this raid !! And I only reached 1.3K !!!

@Bolomas, even in Maduolan there is usually a bonus for 1st healer but as you well defined it, that's really stupid. FYI the first overhealer was a QS...

@Muhan, thx but that's not a reason to tank with your SS ;-D)

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IMO the best way to get the 1st place in any raid is to "read" carefully the game.

Who takes aggro?
Does the boss Aoe? (my favourite part haha)
Is this guy is already under a healing spell or Hot?
And so on.

I'm gonna try soon to make a short guide with all the "tricks" that I know for priest healer in PVE.
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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 8:05  #
Nous I think hirna is talking about a specific fight(twins?), it s impossible to get 3000hps on the duration of a whole raid, unless you get infinite mana, and the whole raid stand on aoe on purpose though i m not even sure you'd go that high.

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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 8:37  #
Do you know an add-on to display my xK/seconde?

But not somthing huge like recount...just little window or simple line.
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  Mon 28 Dec 2009 - 14:42  #
Actually my 3K hps came at the beginning of SW, when we were fighting the packs of mobs (ofc it didn't last during the whole fb)
At that time Circle of Healing didn't have CD and full buff (potions,...) + Prayer of healing + Circle of healing + renew on MT's + instant flash heal when you crit = high ammount of heal in no-time.
I'm in france ATM and I don't have my computer, but I'll try to find the screenshots when I'll be back in sgh.

The add-on was Recount, before the patch when it worked properly, if you click on the main category displayed, you can switch between

-Heal
-Heal/sec
-DPS
-Damage done
-Dispells
-....
and a lot more.

Now i can't find a proper version of recount.
It's always grey and displays the #1 only.

I'll be in China the 2nd, I'll try to find the screenshot again Wink

And also, only reach 1.3 K ?
First of all, now the tanks DO got a really good equipment, they don't take as much damage as before.
Plus, SW has been nerfed, a lot. The whole raid doesn't take as much damages as before either.
And well, when I reached 3K, I was spending all my mana on a single pack, just to see my limits. Once again, I was full buffed, and my heals were not always "really" useful, it was just to fill all HP bars.
I don't think I can reach 3K now, with all the factors changing.




PS : now you make me doubt about 3K. I will check as soon as i get home, but I definitely think it was that high.



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  Tue 29 Dec 2009 - 4:04  #
Hey look what I found on the Wow official priest forum. That's long but really funny.

So like, now that (since last night yo!) I've got all these end-game Karazhan epics, I feel that I can finally in good faith provide a guide for the rest of my priestly brethren of the fine art of healing. Prior to my obtaining 'teh purplhez' I was hesitant to share my secrets, as I would be informing the competition of the ways in which I excel over them in the arts of healing, but now that I'm uber I can finally share. Please direct any comments to your own @%%!*%!, because I'm better than you and I don't care what you have to say.


1) The Big H-Bomb, and the Little H-Torpedo

Priests have this spell called 'Greater Heal' yo, and it's like the BIGGEST HEAL-BOMB EVER, so like you gotta be careful when you use it, cuz like Uncle Ben (from Spider Man, not the rice guy) says, "with great power comes great responsibility". A good benchmark is to only drop the BIG H-BOMB on Druid tanks, or really super-geared warriors, cuz those are the only two classes that have enough hitpoints to deal with the H-Bomb. Now, a lot of other priests whine about some %!@@ called 'efficiency', but Priests aren't simpering little silly-nannies prancing around being all efficient, no. We're the Ninjarobopirates of healing, so full of badassery that we shake efficiency's hand, then sucker-punch him in the teeth and call his mom fat.

For all other classes we have this other thing called a "Prayer of Mending", which just like goes BAAM and fires off this twirly ribbon. Unless you're dealing with one of the two classes that can take a BIG H-BOMB you can use this little healing torpedo, and it like bounces around and heals people who take damage. Now like a lolrestoshaman or a druid or that other healing class has to actually target people and cast spells, but we're Priests, the penultimate healing badasses, and our spell just does it by itself. BAAM! Yeah.


1.1) Lolpaladintanks

There are also paladins who think they can tank. They usually don't have enough HP to withstand a BIG H-BOMB, but because we're Priests, we have an answer for them.

You see, paladin tanks regain mana when they get healed, and since you want them to regain mana all the time, you use this spell called like 'Renewing' or something. It totally like heals them every couple of seconds, so they'll be regaining mana constantly. Sometimes you can hit them with the Little Healing Torpedo, but only if it doesn't interfere with your other duties (see below).


2) Buffs

ONLY DRUID TANKS AND GEARED WARRIORS SHOULD GET BUFFS. This is because of hit point scaling, which means that like the difference between 10k and 11k hitpoints is WAY less than the difference from 20-21k. It's like a Magnitude of Order or something like that. Like if I'm expected to stop and buff everyone every half hour, it could take like WHOLE MINUTES of extra time to beat the dungeon, and frankly my time is more valuable than that. I learned a couple of days ago that there was like this spell to buff everyone at once, and I was all like, "yeah, sweet", but then I found out it like costs money to cast, so I was all like, "oh, damn."

I ain't payin' to give a damn mage more hitpoints. That's just crazy talk.


3) Ressurection

People die, it's just a fact of life. A lot of the time my 'Prayer of Mending' just doesn't bounce around fast enough and people die. Now, a smart priest stands way behind everyone else, so that when people start dying we can use this spell called 'Fade' and drink a Speed Potion and make a beeline for the door. Remember it's not cowardice, it's prudence, cuz like, WTF am I gonna do, right?

So after you run out of the instance, watch the party health bar to make sure everyone is dead before you go back in. Head back to where people died. If there's a Druid, a paladin or a shaman you can use your OMGJesus, 'ressurect' spell and bring them back to life, and then they can like bring other people back to life while you check out drops in Karazhan through Atlas loot. You don't wanna use your OMGJesus too often, cuz like, after the 1,000th time Jesus walked on water, I bet the Israelites were all like, "Meh. Do something else Jesus."

So you don't want people just thinking you can bring them back to life any time they die, because after a while people will be all like, "Meh. Do something else, Idialog." And then you have to like go through your spellbook and find some spell you've never used before like 'Binding Heal' (heh, Bondage Heal) or 'Flash Heal' (Which doesn't work, cuz even after I cast it the mob can still see just fine) or some %!@@ like that.

So basically don't OMGJesus people unless you get can someone else who can take care of the ressurection.


4) Raiding

Okay, so you're in a raid. You've got your BEAR TANK or UBER WARRIOR targetted. You probably want to turn off party and raid frames, because Blizzard put a lot of thought into the designs and textures in WoW and it's rude to not enjoy them. Now, as soon as your tank engages, you press your assist button, and now you should have the boss targetted.

Now you start your rotation, which looks like this:

Smite,smite,smite,smite,smite,smite,smite... etc.

Every 10-15 smites you press your Assist key again, and hit the tank with the BIG H-BOMB!, and then quickly (it's really key to do this quickly) assist back onto the boss so your Smite debuff is still going and resume your rotation.

BE CAREFUL! A lot of times after your 10-15 smites when you assist the boss it will be targetting someone other than your BEAR TANK or UBER WARRIOR (these classes die a lot). Make sure if this is the case to use your Prayer of Mending so the whole raid can get healed.


5) Jealousy

The hardest part about being a priest is dealing with other people, cuz like everyone is jealous of you for having rolled the best class in WoW. I've compiled a list of common complaints, and your responses:

"You should heal more often n00b, the tank keeps dying": This complaint usually has two causes, either the tank doesn't have enough gear to take the hits during the Smite-based part of the healing rotation (common) or some DPS class is jealous of your awesome DPS. The proper answer is to drop a Lightwell and say, "Heal yourself **#%#."

"You suck, I was AEing and you didn't even shield me once": A lot of people seem to think that priests can use shields. This is not the case, and even if we could use shields, Warriors have Intervene, not Priests, so like, how the hell am I supposed to shield you dumbass? The proper answer is a drop a Lightwell and say, "Heal yourself, mage-**#%#."

"Res please?": We've already covered the (very sensible) reasons not to ressurect people too much, so when you hear this, it's better to take the high road and just don't say anything juvenile back. Just ignore them until they run back and then drop a Lightwell and say, "Hey buddy, you should heal yourself with this Lightwell."

" has been removed from the group": A lot of people feel unworthy when you're in their group (it's only natural, since as a Priest your time is more valuable than theirs, and like, they're totally wasting it by not beating the dungeon faster). When the embarassment reaches fever-pitch, many group leaders will simply have to let you leave the group to spare themselves. This is actually like a compliment, so you should drop a Lightwell for them. Even though they won't be able to use it, it will hang out there and shine, a glimmering reminder of how close they all came to the perfect WoW toon.

Other: Generally, a safe response to complaints not specifically covered herein is to drop a Lightwell and say "Heal yourself, **#%#."


6) Conclusories

Obviously Priests own in every way, so like, now you know how to heal and stuff. PLEASE KEEP THIS INFO CONFIDENTIAL, as until I get a couple more endgame Karazhan epics I want to keep these secrets on the down-low.

You're welcome and stuff,

~IDialog,
Priest.
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  Tue 29 Dec 2009 - 13:01  #
LMAO this was fun Very Happy
I like the shields part and the "You probably want to turn off party and raid frames, because Blizzard put a lot of thought into the designs and textures in WoW" and indeed, I respect Blizzard's work by turning off all my interface.



Gratz on finding this Razz
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  Tue 29 Dec 2009 - 19:32  #
Quote :
Edit : For those who speak french : http://www.zshare.net/audio/70335973cb75c917 lol have fun
LOLZOR

Very Happy
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  Tue 29 Dec 2009 - 19:49  #
Don't mess with the "lady" =D
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  Wed 30 Dec 2009 - 5:52  #
She is such an ass ...
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  Wed 30 Dec 2009 - 8:25  #
Hirna_zjmj wrote:




Edit : For those who speak french : http://www.zshare.net/audio/70335973cb75c917 lol have fun

ROFL
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  Wed 30 Dec 2009 - 13:34  #
I love the
"now i can be "super cool" because i just arrived on the server"

Haha, what an arrival.
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  Sat 2 Jan 2010 - 19:38  #
AG is a pimp when it comes to healing... Too bad I can't play with him anymore Sad

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  Mon 4 Jan 2010 - 10:26  #
and the shadowpriest is a mass facemelter also :p

we got great dps, great aoe and have indirect raid heals
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  Mon 4 Jan 2010 - 11:15  #
Btw I know that the MS healer is good in WOTLK but how about the Shadow priest?

Dps good?

I mean since that Blizzard have allowed the mana replenishement to Mage and Hunter it must be harder to be accepted in a raid?
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  Mon 4 Jan 2010 - 11:48  #
We have many shadow priest in our raid and their dps is ok on bosses. You get a powerful channeled aoe on your way to 80. When i leveled my priest I looked at the forums and it seems, shadow priests are ok on dps meter, if you take their utility in consideration, but some said the spec is boring to play and it's not viable in pvp.

But I never had the occasion to experience it myself.

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  Mon 4 Jan 2010 - 19:48  #
to give u a quick idea of how a shadowpriest does in wotlk

i dont do raid, only badge gear atm

normal fights i do 5000+ dps easily unbuffed
aoe can get over 10,000dps on whelps and stuff

oh and we heal the raid also

pvp we not so good, i have 23k hp and 900 res but still get killed easily by melee classes, which is why i dont do arenas. If stitch gets to 80 maybe i mess around 33 55 with him :p

boring? well its the most enjoyable of my raidable 80s
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  Fri 8 Jan 2010 - 9:00  #
Even B.O is a priest. We rock !!

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  Fri 8 Jan 2010 - 10:33  #
Obama is a priest, but also a clicker. Too bad.


Alright, found one of the screenshot, and it was, indeed, not 3K, but 2K5 (okay, sorry, my mistake Very Happy).

Actually I only got one screenshot with 2.357 K right after a boss and another one during packs of mobs with 2 K, so basically my whole fb's hps was around 2.2 K. That's why your 1.3 K seemed low to me, and that's why i might have exaggerated a bit (i didn't have the data in mind and hadn't raid for a long time) when i said 3 K.

To come back on the subject, yes, priests are op healers santa


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  Fri 8 Jan 2010 - 10:38  #
Marseillais !!!

Note: Marseille is well-know town in the south of France. People living there are always arguing that they get/see/win/... ten times more than the reality !!!

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  Fri 8 Jan 2010 - 10:49  #
No i'm not, i was just coming back on my mistake, 1.3 K semmed pretty low (not saying you're newb or anything) and I was like 100% sure to be able to reach like twice this ammount.

So that was just to confirm that I hadn't dream or anything Very Happy


BTW, I formatted my PC and lost the first 8 minutes of my second video (just the editing, fortunately i backed up the sequences on my HD). That sucks, I spent quite a lot of time on it, and it keeps delaying my plans wall
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  Fri 8 Jan 2010 - 11:17  #
ok ok I let you the week-end to finish that movie or you are fired !!!
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I'm trying to find a full retail version of Fraps on the net, and at the same time avoiding any virsuses (just formated, not to mess up again).
Plus i'm gonna have to re-install Sony Vegas (legal version Very Happy)


Seems like i just found a Fraps version...now DLing heheheh
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