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  Tue 9 Nov 2010 - 6:50  #
Hey Guys,

Just as a heads up...

Yesterday I installed CWoW on my new (Awesome) PC.
After installing it opened the launcher which I let (stupid me) automaticly update to the newest version of the launcher(only). I got this nice Cataclysm style launcher but as soon as I wanted to manually patch to 3.2.2 for CWoW install my entire WoW folder was locked. Shocked

I had to reinstall WoW again and quit the launcher inmediatly to manually patch.
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  Tue 9 Nov 2010 - 20:27  #
Computer specs pl0x
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  Wed 10 Nov 2010 - 5:20  #
hehe thought you would never ask Very Happy

CPU: i7 875k 4x @3.6, 2x @4.2 cooled by Corsair H70
GPU: EVGA GTX460 SC EE 1024MB in SLI 1620 / 1950
HDD: Corsair F160 in Raid0
MEM: 8GB of Corsair DDR3-1600 Dominator GT (+ Fan)
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Got most of my parts from Holland during my last stay because apparently Foshan (7mil ppl) is a too small city to have such a wide range of parts... Rolling Eyes
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  Thu 11 Nov 2010 - 4:50  #
Only complaint is your RAM. WHY THE HELL DO YOU NEED SO MUCH RAM?!?!?!?!

You're like my aunt - she has 16 cores and 32gb of RAM in her system or something whimsical like that, but she works in a field where it demands that much.
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  Thu 11 Nov 2010 - 5:44  #
to fill up all the slots!, else it looks so empty.

(32gb wtf?)
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  Thu 11 Nov 2010 - 20:04  #
StiXx wrote:
to fill up all the slots!, else it looks so empty.

(32gb wtf?)

Yeah, no. You just wasted like US$100+ on the excess RAM.
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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 5:51  #
waste....

Having 2 video cards or a processor with 4 cores could also be a waste if your just playing mostly wow i guess...

I like to OC and play a bit with my pc and the extra RAM never hurts...
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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 8:12  #
I think all 32bits versions of windows xp/vista/7 only support up to 4gb of ram. So even if it shows 8gb ram in the control panel it'll use only 4gb. You have to use a 64bits version to lift the limit. But 64bits OS sucks caus lots of programs doesn't work with.
SLI is not a waste if you play on a high-res hudge screen Smile

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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 9:23  #
there is a difference between 4 and 8G ram, esp if you run a lot of stuff at the same time

even my wife's notebook has 4G ....
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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 9:34  #
bolomas wrote:
I think all 32bits versions of windows xp/vista/7 only support up to 4gb of ram. So even if it shows 8gb ram in the control panel it'll use only 4gb. You have to use a 64bits version to lift the limit. But 64bits OS sucks caus lots of programs doesn't work with.
SLI is not a waste if you play on a high-res hudge screen Smile

I have win7 64-bits Smile
I have a huge high res screen Smile, but 8 GB of RAM is just as much as an overkill as SLI or a 4 core processor for all that matter.

I cant think of any program I use that is not supported by 64-bits or has problems working on 64-bits.


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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 9:49  #
win xp 64 was pretty bad but vista and especially windows 7 64 bit versions are quite stable

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  Fri 12 Nov 2010 - 14:32  #
Nice the thread changed into PC discussion.

Anyone will have an improvement using 8gb of memory if the software he use benefits from it!!! Normal user will only see the improvement by benchmarking their system.

For me i see a major improvement for all the rendering software i use UG NX4, Solidworks, Pro E while running other stuff in the background. Try this with 4 or 8gb memory while rendering a 3D file and watching movie and play wow at the same time u will notice the diffrence (and yes i know its not only memory related its the whole system) Smile

@ STixx: You bought the similar sytem as i was looking at but i changed my spec slightly.
CPU: I7 970, Mobo: Asus P7P55D Premium, Mem: 4gb Kyngston HyperX DDR3-1600, GFX: Radeon HD5970, Power: CoolerMaster 850W, OS:WIn7 64bit

Funny part is i stil use my old HDD from 6 years ago and it lowered my Benchmark a lot, thats soon to be changed.
Also my old power supply was only 650W and i couldnt start the PC with the Radeon only my old GF8800 was working never thought that a PC really might need 850W power supply Smile

Some might say the System is overkilled but i guess its all a point of view, people might spend lots of money on clothing, cars or others i like to spend it from time to time on my Electronic devices Razz


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  Sat 13 Nov 2010 - 20:56  #
Windows 7 64 bits, what version? Home Basic? Home Premium? I think those support up to 32 gigs of RAM (Ultimate 64 bit even supports up to a goddamn 192 GIGABYTES OF RAM.
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  Sat 13 Nov 2010 - 21:29  #
stitch wrote:
@ STixx: You bought the similar sytem as i was looking at but i changed my spec slightly.
CPU: I7 970, Mobo: Asus P7P55D Premium, Mem: 4gb Kyngston HyperX DDR3-1600, GFX: Radeon HD5970, Power: CoolerMaster 850W, OS:WIn7 64bit

Funny part is i stil use my old HDD from 6 years ago and it lowered my Benchmark a lot, thats soon to be changed.
Also my old power supply was only 650W and i couldnt start the PC with the Radeon only my old GF8800 was working never thought that a PC really might need 850W power supply Smile

Some might say the System is overkilled but i guess its all a point of view, people might spend lots of money on clothing, cars or others i like to spend it from time to time on my Electronic devices Razz

Finnaly some support from another enthousiast !! Smile
You really got a nice rig, the 970 it goes well with overclocking, what speeds are you getting at? also at the beginning I was doubting between 2 GTX460 or the Asus Ares. I ended up with getting the SLI 460's just because I always wanted to get something in SLI. Before I always bought the single "powerfull" card with the meaning to later upgrade but at the end I would always buy 1 new card instead of upgrade to SLI or Crossfire.. sounds stupid (as in saying this out loud) but looking in the case makes it worth getting the SLI Smile

for the HHD I would really recommend getting an SSD those things are blazing fast, in my old pc I have 2 WD15000Hfds (10.000RPM) im now using those as my backup drives also in raid0, not using an SSD in your system but getting a normal HDD is like wasting USD 100 on the processor of videocard which you could have gotten cheaper but didtn upgrade to SSD instead (performance wise)!

The first 2 weeks when I got my new PC i didnt play a game on it just busy with Overclocking and playing in the BIOS my furmarks are 29,719 at the moment Smile (still trying to reach the 30,0000 mark without blowing up my PC Very Happy


Sup wrote:
Windows 7 64 bits, what version? Home Basic? Home Premium? I think those support up to 32 gigs of RAM (Ultimate 64 bit even supports up to a goddamn 192 GIGABYTES OF RAM.

What are you trying to say?


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  Sun 14 Nov 2010 - 9:07  #
@Stixx
Was thinking severall times about SLI or Crossfire setup but heard to many complains from friends of mine that they run into some problems even they still liked the performance. The 5970 is basiclly a Crossfire but only on one card.
Yeah the HDD wil be changed but i didnt like the pricing a few month ago for the SSD and to be honest i was to lazy backing up all my stuff at that time. BTW how much did you pay for yours?

No OC at the moment and no benchmarks run yet except the crappy Win 7 rating, Sytem runs very fine as it is so far.

I use Win7 Home which is good enough for me.

I will only benchmark after i got the new SDD and then play around with OC a little, 30K is a good target to reach and should be possible with proper cooling.
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  Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 1:32  #
@StiXx: I'm just saying it can.
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  Thu 18 Nov 2010 - 9:04  #
How much did you guys pay for your rigs ? I just bought a new system (mostly for WoW) and I thought I was going overboard until I looked here Shocked

I spent about 4400RMB for

CPU: i3 530 @ 2.93GHz (cooled by a coolermaster cpu fan)
GPU: GF 450GTS 1GB (Zoltac)
HDD: 500GB SATA (Seagate)
MEM: 4GB DDR3 (Kingston)
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OS: Win7 Ultimate
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  Thu 18 Nov 2010 - 11:53  #
Since i upgrade my system and just bought Mainboard, CPU and Memory. I payed around 400Euro.

Was it a fixed sytem or you set it up by urself?
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  Thu 18 Nov 2010 - 14:37  #
I have a mac. Zing.
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  Thu 18 Nov 2010 - 15:54  #
Urubaen wrote:
I have a mac. Zing.

Yeah, I had a Macintosh too Smile

Specifications
Processor: Motorola 68000, 8 MHz
System Bus Speed: 8 MHz
ROM Size: 256 kB
Data Path: 16-bit Level 1
RAM Type: 150 ns 30-pin SIMM
VRAM Type: Built-in
Standard RAM: 1 MB
Maximum RAM: 4 MB
RAM Slots: 4 (in pairs)
Standard Hard Drive: 20 MB
Int. Hard Drive Type: SCSI
Standard Disk: 3.5 in, 800 kB, 800 kB x 2 (auto)
Exp. Slots: SE PDS
Battery Type: 3.6 V Lithium
Display: 9 in monochrome
Supported Mac OS: 3.3–7.5.1, 7.5.3–7.5.5
Avg. Weight: 17.0 lb/7.7 kg
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 1:15  #
stItCh wrote:
Since i upgrade my system and just bought Mainboard, CPU and Memory. I payed around 400Euro.

Was it a fixed sytem or you set it up by urself?

I picked out the components myself, but they put it together for me.
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 4:54  #
Muhan wrote:
Urubaen wrote:
I have a mac. Zing.

Yeah, I had a Macintosh too Smile

Specifications
Processor: Motorola 68000, 8 MHz
System Bus Speed: 8 MHz
ROM Size: 256 kB
Data Path: 16-bit Level 1
RAM Type: 150 ns 30-pin SIMM
VRAM Type: Built-in
Standard RAM: 1 MB
Maximum RAM: 4 MB
RAM Slots: 4 (in pairs)
Standard Hard Drive: 20 MB
Int. Hard Drive Type: SCSI
Standard Disk: 3.5 in, 800 kB, 800 kB x 2 (auto)
Exp. Slots: SE PDS
Battery Type: 3.6 V Lithium
Display: 9 in monochrome
Supported Mac OS: 3.3–7.5.1, 7.5.3–7.5.5
Avg. Weight: 17.0 lb/7.7 kg

You have no idea how much win you produced with this post.
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 5:37  #
Sup wrote:
You have no idea how much win you produced with this post.

you are right, I have no idea how much win I produced with my post. Guess I also have now idea what you are trying to say with that sentence.
I think it might have to do with the fact, that my mothertongue is not english.

Anyway, this whole thread is about what ppl have for new PCs. A techy thread I guess.
I responded to Urubaen's post. Back in 1988 I did have the Macintosh SE. After that Mac got to slow I never bought a Macintosh again.
So maybe Uru can convince me about the positive things the Macs have.
Maybe I should open a new thread for this, not to disturb others. Or I should go out and buy me a new PC and then I might be allowed to post in this thread, and write how much i spent and which components I used.


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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 5:55  #
Sorry if the thread seems offensive or so to anyone.
Should have PM'd those specs instead of posted it.. my bad Sad

The only reason I started this thread was to say that when you install wow click away the launcher inmediatly else you have to install it again...
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 6:05  #
StiXx wrote:
Sorry if the thread seems offensive or so to anyone.
Should have PM'd those specs instead of posted it.. my bad Sad

The only reason I started this thread was to say that when you install wow click away the launcher inmediatly else you have to install it again...

I don't think this thread is offensive. It seemed to be a good discussion about what ppl have for new systems. A good exchange of thoughts and information.
Some might have the impression I might have highjacked the thread to post some unnecessary informations.
As mentioned I actualy did have the Macintosh SE and I posted the specifications only so that ppl could actualy see the development in the last 20 to 25 yrs.
1MB RAM was standard at that time Wink

So no worries Stixx, you didn't do anything bad.

And for all who are offended and think my post was unnecessary, inapropriate or offensive I appologize sincerely.
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 7:49  #
-> muhan

My amiga is faster than your old mac :p
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 7:53  #
my rig is over 2 yrs old and the I5/I7 arent significantly faster so I will wait

e8400 @ 3.6GHz
8G DDR 2 800
ATI 5770
Win7 64bit

I'm really tempted by the 6870 though.
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  Fri 19 Nov 2010 - 17:26  #
Macs are for the cool kids.
Macs can help you join the Kool Kids Klub
Macs make good POWER-point
Macs make good Documents
Macs make good paperweight
Macs make good heater for your desk
Macs make good heater for you legs
Macs are immune to viruses
Macs cannot use exe files
Macs can use .app files
Macs rule.
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  Sat 20 Nov 2010 - 4:42  #
Urubaen wrote:
Macs are for the cool kids.
Macs can help you join the Kool Kids Klub
Macs make good POWER-point
Macs make good Documents
Macs make good paperweight
Macs make good heater for your desk
Macs make good heater for you legs
Macs are immune to viruses
Macs cannot use exe files
Macs can use .app files
Macs rule.

Now I can spawn and endless list about how PCs are better but I don't feel like wasting the bandwidth.

You know what? Screw it. It's go time:

PCs are easy to use.
PCs don't cost you and your mother's arms and legs.
PCs have a better overall performance than Macs.
PCs have more native programs and discs than Macs.
PCs are more easily customizable than Macs.
PCs are good hand-warmers.

If it's pre-built then it comes down to WHO builds it. Brands like ASUS and Dell are great. On the flip side, brands like HP are complete garbage. I have a Dell laptop that never breaks. On the flip side, I had 3 HPs that broke within a year of each other. If you're going custom-built, however, you just need good parts and know what the hell you're doing.
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  Mon 22 Nov 2010 - 9:52  #
Sup wrote:
Urubaen wrote:
Macs are for the cool kids.
Macs can help you join the Kool Kids Klub
Macs make good POWER-point
Macs make good Documents
Macs make good paperweight
Macs make good heater for your desk
Macs make good heater for you legs
Macs are immune to viruses
Macs cannot use exe files
Macs can use .app files
Macs rule.

Now I can spawn and endless list about how PCs are better but I don't feel like wasting the bandwidth.

You know what? Screw it. It's go time:

PCs are easy to use.
PCs don't cost you and your mother's arms and legs.
PCs have a better overall performance than Macs.
PCs have more native programs and discs than Macs.
PCs are more easily customizable than Macs.
PCs are good hand-warmers.

If it's pre-built then it comes down to WHO builds it. Brands like ASUS and Dell are great. On the flip side, brands like HP are complete garbage. I have a Dell laptop that never breaks. On the flip side, I had 3 HPs that broke within a year of each other. If you're going custom-built, however, you just need good parts and know what the hell you're doing.

Uru's list is longer..
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  Mon 22 Nov 2010 - 16:10  #
Sup wrote:


If it's pre-built then it comes down to WHO builds it. Brands like ASUS and Dell are great. On the flip side, brands like HP are complete garbage. I have a Dell laptop that never breaks. On the flip side, I had 3 HPs that broke within a year of each other. If you're going custom-built, however, you just need good parts and know what the hell you're doing.

No matter the build, macs are good. Razz
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  Tue 23 Nov 2010 - 5:30  #
StiXx wrote:
Sup wrote:
Urubaen wrote:
Macs are for the cool kids.
Macs can help you join the Kool Kids Klub
Macs make good POWER-point
Macs make good Documents
Macs make good paperweight
Macs make good heater for your desk
Macs make good heater for you legs
Macs are immune to viruses
Macs cannot use exe files
Macs can use .app files
Macs rule.

Now I can spawn and endless list about how PCs are better but I don't feel like wasting the bandwidth.

You know what? Screw it. It's go time:

PCs are easy to use.
PCs don't cost you and your mother's arms and legs.
PCs have a better overall performance than Macs.
PCs have more native programs and discs than Macs.
PCs are more easily customizable than Macs.
PCs are good hand-warmers.

If it's pre-built then it comes down to WHO builds it. Brands like ASUS and Dell are great. On the flip side, brands like HP are complete garbage. I have a Dell laptop that never breaks. On the flip side, I had 3 HPs that broke within a year of each other. If you're going custom-built, however, you just need good parts and know what the hell you're doing.

Uru's list is longer..

PCs look more professional and more srsface
Cheap PCs make good sandbox tools - "cheap" and "Mac" do not go in the same sentence
PCs are affordable on any budget
Macs are NOT invincible, they can still get infected with Mac-native viruses
PCs also make good paperweight
PCs are slightly tougher - I spilled coffee on my laptop keyboard and all I had were a few sticky keys
Microsoft Office is better on a PC

There, I have more than Urubaen.
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  Tue 23 Nov 2010 - 5:36  #
So here's the new computer I'm gonna get for Christmas:

PROCESSORS Intel® Core™i7-930 processor(8MB L2 Cache, 2.80GHz) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English edit
MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 DIMMs edit
MONITOR ST2220L 21.5-inch Full HD Widescreen Monitor edit
VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 edit
HARD DRIVE 1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability edit
SPEAKERS No Speaker Option edit
KEYBOARD Dell Wireless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse edit
MOUSE Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package edit
SOUND CARD THX® TruStudio PC™ edit
MODEM No Modem Option edit

Dell Studio XPS 9100. $1,600.
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