This thread has been invaded by the members of Foreign shards. It has been converted into another flame war, while a few other members of that guild try to excuse their supposed leader "he said he's pretty much the leader" and his racist attitude when visiting (trying to steal members from) my guild.

I've been called mean for posting up my dismay at said person after he came into my guild, attempted to steal members, and spouted racism towards the Chinese members. According to the standards of some of the members of foreign shards, we should not post anything like that on this forum, we should only argue one on one with the person who already lacks any sense of decency.

To the members of Foreign shards. I have sat here watching you attack my personality and the integrity of my guild because you were unhappy with what I said about ONE of your members. You think it is excusable to get invited to another guild, advertise your guild, tell all the foreigners to leave mine because yours is better, post racism towards Chinese people in Chinese characters while Chinese guild members are present, but you think it's unacceptable for anyone to complain about it on the very same forum that you used to find our guild.

You use petty tactics like saying you think I'm mean because I victimized ONE of your members. I didn't victimize him, I clearly stated what happened. It's been your further actions of insulting me and my guild as well as advertising your guild on MY guild thread advertisement. How would you feel if this was done to you? Can you really justify this?

Is your guild really so petty that it needs to start insulting everyone else?

Be a man and accept the responsibility of your actions. No one threw the first stone at your guild, yet you seem to love to do it to others. How about all the other guilds use your guild to advertise for themselves? Why shouldn't we come to your guild and try to get YOUR members to leave? How about we go in there, single out a single nationality, and insult them?

This is what ONE of your members did. If there is no clear thinker in your guild who can admit fault, then your guild is far too messed up to be worth a good person's time.

The difference between those of you who are defending your ignorant leader, and the members in my guild is, my members defend an honorable decision. You few members (quite possibly just the ONE member with multiple nicks) are defending the irresponsible actions of your member.

You F'd up first, kids.

Caid.

444

caid444 wrote:

I've opened this guild for anyone who would like to play together. We're not the best of the best of the best, but we play to have fun. We're slowly growing, and are a mixture of foreign players and Chinese alike.

Everyone follows two rules in the guild, speak English, and be good to others. Aside from that, it's fair game.

How can you say be good to others, when you were very very willing to create a thread on this forum to say bad things about someone else? It matters not whether Prayzz did what you said he did. But to create a thread and flame him on a public forum? Not very nice, or very considerate. For all those who don't believe me? Just read the "Mods please delete this thread" topic. The very first post is made by Caid. In it he was saying how bad a person Prayzz was. BTW I'm in the same guild as Prayzz, and although I'm not sure if what Caid was true... if Caid is the "nice and considerate" person he says he is, he shouldn't be flaming people online. Am I a nice person? Probably not. At least I'm willing to admit it, unlike Caid.

caid444 wrote:

Only considerate people need join us.

Contact Caid, Figaro, Lesin, or Themetis in the game.

Long live the Alliance.

Caid.

444

Maybe you should think about being considerate first.

VerySerious wrote:

caid444 wrote:

I've opened this guild for anyone who would like to play together. We're not the best of the best of the best, but we play to have fun. We're slowly growing, and are a mixture of foreign players and Chinese alike.

Everyone follows two rules in the guild, speak English, and be good to others. Aside from that, it's fair game.

How can you say be good to others, when you were very very willing to create a thread on this forum to say bad things about someone else? It matters not whether Prayzz did what you said he did. But to create a thread and flame him on a public forum? Not very nice, or very considerate. For all those who don't believe me? Just read the "Mods please delete this thread" topic. The very first post is made by Caid. In it he was saying how bad a person Prayzz was. BTW I'm in the same guild as Prayzz, and although I'm not sure if what Caid was true... if Caid is the "nice and considerate" person he says he is, he shouldn't be flaming people online. Am I a nice person? Probably not. At least I'm willing to admit it, unlike Caid.

caid444 wrote:

Only considerate people need join us.

Contact Caid, Figaro, Lesin, or Themetis in the game.

Long live the Alliance.

Caid.

444

Maybe you should think about being considerate first.

Can't we just keep this thread clean? We don't want another thread like the one you're referring to! Mods please delete! (Sorry for joining the other side in this Juggs - I don't have a problem with you personally )

yryana you don't have to be sorry for anything. you're doing what you think is right. i'm doing what i think is right. as for keeping it clean? if telling the truth is considered dirtying a thread, then yes i did dirty this thread. maybe we should get the mods to delete this thread as well.

and if you're so afraid of threads turning into flame wars, then you should get caid to not start one. cuz if you start a fight you better finish it... otherwise someone else will finish it for you. i personally have never started a thread telling every member of this forum how bad some other member(s) are. if you wanna support that yryana, thats fine with me. just don't be surprised when the person/group you're dissing starts fighting back.

oh and yryana... don't worry i'm not going to "dirty" the other threads. i only voiced my opinion on these 2 threads because it directly relates to the subject at hand... which is caid is a sanctimonious prick. i've left all other threads that caid and duder posted on alone, cuz it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

It's fine I didn't worry - just my personal opinion

Content deleted by Admins.
Reason : it's not a competition here. If you want to advertize your guild, you should do it on a new thread which I believe already exists.

Prayzz I actually never had any problems with you - and we played together...everything was nice.

But this really goes to far: You just can't advertise in another guilds thread for yours...it's just not....right. Even if you have problems with their leader!

! Where is the MOD ! - is there actually one for this forum?

Ok guys, 1 thread closed is enough. Stop flamming each others or I'll close this 1 too.

I have a problem with prayzz, he's racist and inconsiderate. I'm starting to wonder how insecure Foreign Shards is as a guild, as they inconsiderately advertise on the threads for every other guild. I haven't put up any diss posts in your advertisement. Have you noticed that? It's not because I'm unable to, it's because it's not fair play.

This thread is not an advertisement for foreign shards, it's an advertisement for Light of Honor. Show some respect to people other than yourselves. If you take my guild's advertisement as a diss to you, that's your own deal and you can talk about it on your guild's thread. I've asked that this thread get closed (again) so that I can post a new advertisement for our thread. I don't go posting in your guild thread that your leader is racist (and he SO is). I also don't post what he did in my guild (in the actual game) in your guild's advertisement.

If you want people to join your guild, don't do it by tarnishing the rep of every other guild. And don't do it with bully tactics. You obviously seek some sort of pleasure from flame wars (you did say you like flame wars) and whatever is wrong with your real life to create such a fickle habit is your own deal, but keep it to your own guild's thread.

There is no rule saying not to advertise your own guild in another guild's thread, because the mods of this forum probably thought people were decent enough to think of that for themselves. Obviously not.

Once again, drop the flame war. Your guild is your guild, I respect your right to have your own thread, do the same thing and respect the right of others to have a different guild, and their own way about it.

Caid

444

caid444 wrote:

I have a problem with prayzz, he's racist and inconsiderate. I'm starting to wonder how insecure Foreign Shards is as a guild, as they inconsiderately advertise on the threads for every other guild. I haven't put up any diss posts in your advertisement. Have you noticed that? It's not because I'm unable to, it's because it's not fair play.

This thread is not an advertisement for foreign shards, it's an advertisement for Light of Honor. Show some respect to people other than yourselves. If you take my guild's advertisement as a diss to you, that's your own deal and you can talk about it on your guild's thread. I've asked that this thread get closed (again) so that I can post a new advertisement for our thread. I don't go posting in your guild thread that your leader is racist (and he SO is). I also don't post what he did in my guild (in the actual game) in your guild's advertisement.

If you want people to join your guild, don't do it by tarnishing the rep of every other guild. And don't do it with bully tactics. You obviously seek some sort of pleasure from flame wars (you did say you like flame wars) and whatever is wrong with your real life to create such a fickle habit is your own deal, but keep it to your own guild's thread.

There is no rule saying not to advertise your own guild in another guild's thread, because the mods of this forum probably thought people were decent enough to think of that for themselves. Obviously not.

Once again, drop the flame war. Your guild is your guild, I respect your right to have your own thread, do the same thing and respect the right of others to have a different guild, and their own way about it.

Caid

444

LOL flaming while asking for the flame war to stop. don't worry caid, since the mods stepped in, i won't be flaming ya anymore. better go thank the mods for their timely rescue.

Oh trust me, I thank them with my life. For lord knows the dangers of arguing with a highschool student on the internet. He may say even more painful words. I feel the danger... I feel it. You're so eTough it's scary. shiver... shiver...

... I can't believe you're threatening me online... What're you going to do? Flame harder? You're so funny...

Caid.

444

lol you're so sensitive, we're just cracking up here

Oh... ok... I thought you were serious... Nevermind then.

Ignore them caid. They have the attention span of a 3 year old. They'll just get bored and wander off eventually.

Ok, second thread closed.
Prayzz, I've sent you a PM for warning.