http://wow.duowan.com/1011/154110214865.html

It's said that battle.net will upgrade to a brand new style and there will be more functions and service available on battle.net,including the faction change(the price will not be over it used to be when 9City ran WOW in China).

If true, that'd be great. What I'm really hoping for is the implementation of Dungeon Finder; my server's alliance population is awful, and I'm tired of being bullied by the horde every time I try to enter/leave an instance.

https://wow-in-chinese.forum2jeux.com/general-f1/faction-change-may-start-after-nov20-t1811.htm#16823

This thread just got Muhan'd. Sorry folks.

nothing on the official website
nothing on 178.com
servers still offline, but around noon we will see if patch 3.3.xx is live
EDIT: servers are online, still the same patch

since today would be patch day, it would most likely happen today, if it would happen this week, wouldn't it?
and if there was a new patch implemented today, wouldn't it be mentioned on the official website?

my recommendation to zhenshibendan would be, to first not open a new thread for rumors everytime you see some infos about patch 3.3, just use your existing thread.
second "duowan" doesn't seem to be such a good website, since their rumors seem to be off.

I would love to see patch 3.3 as soon as possible, with the new dungeon finder. If we get faction change and transfers on top of it, that would be realy cool.
Eventualy patch 3.3 will come, but it sure doesn't look like it's going to be this week.
And for next week, just wait and see if it goes live. DONT OPEN A NEW THREAD

Muhan wrote:

nothing on the official website
nothing on 178.com
servers still offline, but around noon we will see if patch 3.3.xx is live

since today would be patch day, it would most likely happen today, if it would happen this week, wouldn't it?
and if there was a new patch implemented today, wouldn't it be mentioned on the official website?

my recommendation to zhenshibendan would be, to first not open a new thread for rumors everytime you see some infos about patch 3.3, just use your existing thread.
second "duowan" doesn't seem to be such a good website, since their rumors seem to be off.

I would love to see patch 3.3 as soon as possible, with the new dungeon finder. If we get faction change and transfers on top of it, that would be realy cool.
Eventualy patch 3.3 will come, but it sure doesn't look like it's going to be this week.
And for next week, just wait and see if it goes live. DONT OPEN A NEW THREAD

STOP !!.... Hammer time !

StiXx wrote:

STOP !!.... Hammer time !

Joining the club?

oh wait, we don't have one.

Let me think about a name first, like "the bashers" or "Troll 'em" or "World of Hammers"

How about:
World of Bash & Troll, the offical Trolls of Foreign Community at Chinese World of Warcraft.

So when they do patch to 3.3.x, for those of us who have and english client, we need to reset to english, patch up, then switch back to cwow?

swankish wrote:

So when they do patch to 3.3.x, for those of us who have and english client, we need to reset to english, patch up, then switch back to cwow?

Basicaly said yes, but be carefull.

I would recomend to wait until the patch is officialy announced and live.
By then you will find comments on this forum on how to proceed the best way.

If you change the realmlist to EU/US to download the patch atuomaticaly, you might end up with the wrong patch and/or over patch.

In anycase have a backup just in case you mess up. Will save you some time.

o of course, i always download patches manually anyways.

Transfer seems available now, at least the interface. It seems to costs 60points so a 30rmb card and takes around 1hour to be done. But right now the system doesn't seems fully functional.

bolomas wrote:

Transfer seems available now, at least the interface. It seems to costs 60points so a 30rmb card and takes around 1hour to be done. But right now the system doesn't seems fully functional.

well as soon as it is possible, I mean not just some selected realms, a guide would be nice

so far I only found this option in my battlenet account, only some selected realms have the possibility, not all realms

In a way, it is better to keep transfers this way.. unless you want more server imbalance than ever. Take Bronzebeard for example. It is known to be a heavily alliance dominated server. Now what if other alliance players come to play here in addition? City raids everyday?

Make the less popular server, (and therefore less populated, heh) more popular, I say.

Btw transfer is 60rmb not 30rmb lol. Those cheap bastards. And faction change will probably come later, caus on their official website they talk about more features in the futur.

found the option on battlenet now, but not all realms are listed
Hoping to be able to transfers some toons from Silvermoon (银月)
to Maduolan (玛多兰) soon, both are low populated

Shouldn't we use this future opporutnity to all get together on one realm?

Urubaen wrote:

Shouldn't we use this future opporutnity to all get together on one realm?

egh..

Some want pvp, some pve, some want horde, some alliance... and then some....

StiXx wrote:

Urubaen wrote:

Shouldn't we use this future opporutnity to all get together on one realm?

egh..

Some want pvp, some pve, some want horde, some alliance... and then some....

agree with StiXx, but at least it will give the chance for ppl who are on a realm all alone and would like to join an existing group, but didn't so far cause they didn't feel like leveling up another toon.

So, make sure the "where to play" guide is up to date, so that ppl can choose where to transfer to.

Today the service still doesn't work for most realms.

Actually what uru say is true, given one day realm AND faction transfer is available, it would cost nothing(well 60rmb yeah) to move an alt on a well balanced realm and stuff. Can be alts, then the fun is where it ends up to be.

The guide is up to date I believe; notify me if you wish for me to modify something.

StiXx wrote:

Some want pvp, some pve, some want horde, some alliance... and then some....

Yes, that is perfectly right but it'll still be interesting wouldn't it? I mean all of us have been scattered for so long and had different experiences,etc. I don't mind playing horde or alliance. Alliance would be a nice change in fact. Just have to find a balanced realm (Flame Crest, I believe is extremely balanced and the guys over there are also die hard pvpers!).

So, Urubaen, you might wana start promoting and find a server.
Let's see how many ppl wana join, even if it's an alt.
Maybe 2 realms, one PVP and one PVE. I guess Horde/Alliance is a minor issue to most ppl, if they can have the advantage of being with other foreigners, but some hate PVP and some can't be without PVP.
Personaly I think a PVE server would be a good choice, it has possibilities to PVP, only thing is you can't gank, that's all.
But some kids can't live without ganking, so maybe 2 realms would be the only solution.

Not to destroy the dream...

Horde or Alliance doesnt really matter to me either.
But I'd always want to be on a pvp server not for the ganking but more for the excitement in those stand off situation when your facing lm.

but...
At the moment we have 2 good options already if you want pvp go BB or you want pve go ma duo lan, why change this. those that are scattered can always come to either of those realms, if they want to? Myself I like our guild on BB a lot I dont feel like leaving that right now..

Personally I was more thinking of a PVP server like the one we went on Taiwan. 1st the faction we were on was highly populated so the economy was great and there was pug raids all the time from morning till the middle of the night.

Then even if it was pvp, being on the faction that outnumber the other makes things real soft because you'll get jumped on at worst twice a month if you don't look for a fight.

Having everyone at the same address would definitly make endgame raiding more enjoyable, unless you are a superhuman that can lead pug and progression group together in ICC.

But yeah, I agree with the fact that it's inconvenient and ask for some sacrifices, and you get no guarantee in the end

plus the chances are that you scatter everyone even more for those who want to stay on the servers there now on

I believe that we have some good options for ppl who start to play on Chinese servers.
CN1, CN2 and CN4 have guilds ppl can join, and they should be able to play without big lag and on a realm with their preference of PVE/PVP.
Anyone else, who is alone on a realm, can hopefuly transfer to one of those guilds.

Concerning the rest of us, I think there are the following problems/issues that prevents us of being on the same realm:
Lag, PVE/PVP preferences and the fact that ppl are in existing guilds

So we have been, we are and we allways will be scattered around, cause most don't want to sacrifice for something where the outcome is unsure.

The "where to play guide" is up to date, just keep up the good work and keep it updated when things change, so that new ppl have an overview where to play.

Safe to say better see when the time of transfers is actually there. dont get excited over things that are not there yet, is too frustrating...

If the option of a new server is good and the animo here is good we can always see.

StiXx wrote:

Safe to say better see when the time of transfers is actually there. dont get excited over things that are not there yet, is too frustrating...

If the option of a new server is good and the animo here is good we can always see.

Well the option for paid transfer is available since a couple of days, according to the official chinese warcraft webpage:
http://www.warcraftchina.com/news/2010/12/1/1.html

It is stated (what I understood from the google translation), that more realms will be added, but was not mentioned when. So depending on which realm you have characters, you might be able to transfer allready.


I have checked everyday and it seems that new realms have allready been added. It wasn't mentioned that this option would be available for all realms, at least what I understood from the google translation.

Here is the Chinese guide on how to transfer:
http://www.warcraftchina.com/services/paid-character-transfer/

To be honest, I have to agree with some of the facts that Muhan states: ganking. You can't even quest peacefully anymore, on BB anyways, because alliance outnumbers horde easily. You kill him and leave? He gets his 5 pals and comes to camp you. Hah! Sad really.

Anyhow, i was thinking about a balanced realm, so that even if it is PVP, you won't be outnumbered 10 to 1. Btw most PVE realms in CN1 BG2 are faction imbalance.

Here are our future options: 雷霆之王 ; 罗宁(this the PVP crazy realm:P)

StiXx wrote:

Safe to say better see when the time of transfers is actually there. dont get excited over things that are not there yet, is too frustrating...

Oh joy,
I checked today and was happy to see that the 2 servers I have toons on have transfers availables.
I started to transfer 1 character from Silvermoon (银月) to Maduolan (玛多兰)

According to the message on battlenet it can take up to 72hours for the transfer.

If everything works out well, I will transfer more to Maduolan. I still will keep 1 character on Silvermoon, so if we decide to gather on a specific realm I can use that toon.

There is also the possibility to transfer your character to another account


Wishing all good luck and joy with this new feature.

Holy moly, I just loged in and my toon was allready transferd
took about 10 minutes

TL;DR: DO WE GATHER ON ONE REALM, ONCE AND FOR ALL?

Muhan did you see anything about faction change or is it just simple transfer?

Urubaen wrote:

TL;DR: DO WE GATHER ON ONE REALM, ONCE AND FOR ALL?

I transfered 5 characters and all worked out, took about 5 to 10min per character, eventhough it's mentioned that it can take up to 72hours.
What I understood, was that after you transfer a toon you want be able to transfer it again for the next 30days. So if we agree on a realm, make sure not to change around or ppl will be stuck for a month

bolomas wrote:

Muhan did you see anything about faction change or is it just simple transfer?

The transfer options can be seen below. It's only for transfering toons, at least what I understand.
I don't know if there is another option available for faction change, I didn't see anything, but that doesn't mean it is not there. my chinese is so bad, I need google translations
Any way if you understand a bit of chinese, you could try out on your battlenet account. Aslong as you don't confirm in the end, nothing will happen anyway.

One Problem i See if we Move Away from maduolan we will Loose Most of the Guild Bank As it will Not Be transferred.

I would like to switch to horde onto a pvp or pve realm.

Before people move I suggest everyone makes a dk for himself on the server he want to migrate and check out his connection!!!

i dont think it would be a good idea to leave with the whole guild do to guild bank and alts.

maybe ppl can transfer an alt to a specific realm, so we can play together. I still have one I can transfer, the rest have "CD" of 30 days cause I just moved them to Maduolan.

Muhan wrote:

i dont think it would be a good idea to leave with the whole guild do to guild bank and alts.

maybe ppl can transfer an alt to a specific realm, so we can play together. I still have one I can transfer, the rest have "CD" of 30 days cause I just moved them to Maduolan.

Only moving with alts make no sense, you will have to lvl again and that makes everything boring, better move a char that is ready to raid or pvp. Also I dont know what you guys have on your guild bank but isnt that all stuff that can be easily replaced??

to me this server seems alright 雷霆之王. it is pvp but horde outnumbers alliance alteast if we go horde

Guild bank items are all for lvl , crafting, receipts and so on most could be transferred with diffrent chars but we still loose all the money we spend on all bank slots.

StiXx wrote:

Only moving with alts make no sense, you will have to lvl again and that makes everything boring, better move a char that is ready to raid or pvp.

It depends on your alt maybe some have several lvl80's
Anyway I don't think ppl will give up their main to join, but I might be wrong.

So, what if they join with an alt, within 1 or 2 weeks they can be ready to raid, if there is guild support to do it.
I've got a lvl 70 which I can level up within a week to 80, but then I need the possibility to run heroics and 10mans to get geared. Do I have to do it by myself, cause everyone is doing it by themselfs or will the guild do this things together, so called raid progress?
IMO, there is just too many open questions and uncertanty to be sure that it's worth to transfer a toon that is ready to raid.
As I mentioned I'm fine with transfering my lvl70 getting him to 80 within 1 week and then get geared to be able to raid.

hehe,

Well actually I was assuming we would already raid together and do heroics together etc...(seemed obvious) since were also doing this on BB.

As to see it from my position since I only have 1 lvl80 on China servers my main, I dont want to transfer it when everyone else who is coming is just sending an "alt" as I would be leaving BB completely behind.

StiXx wrote:

hehe,

Well actually I was assuming we would already raid together and do heroics together etc...(seemed obvious) since were also doing this on BB.

As to see it from my position since I only have 1 lvl80 on China servers my main, I dont want to transfer it when everyone else who is coming is just sending an "alt" as I would be leaving BB completely behind.

I understand your point. Maybe we could say that only level 80's should be transfered.
At least then we can do heroics together and in a short time we should be able to raid together, especialy when 3.3 comes it will be realy fast.
I will wait and see what is needed. I got a lvl 80 Druid or lvl 80 hunter, both alts that I could transfer. My mage will be 80 this week and if necessary I can get my warlock lvl70 to 80 within 1 week.
So waiting to see what happens and when you are ready I can transfer. I only DPS and heal, no tanking for me, cause I hate tanking

I am willing to transfer my level 71 paladin to 雷霆之王, just to get things started. We need more support for this though
Transferring alts won't be enough. Nobody wants to play on a server full of alts right?

Urubaen wrote:

I am willing to transfer my level 71 paladin to 雷霆之王, just to get things started. We need more support for this though
Transferring alts won't be enough. Nobody wants to play on a server full of alts right?

I don't understand your comment Uru. You are willing to transfer your paladin, which I assume is an alt.
But you state that transfering alts isn't enough. nobody wants to play on a server full of alts.
So, why don't you transfer your main? I guess most of us, having more than one toon will transfer an alt.
Alt doesn't necessarily mean a lvl 19, which you need to level up during 6 month until he reaches 80

As mentioned before, lets say min level to transfer is 80. Then it realy doesn't matter, right?
We could run heroics in the beginning until everyone has good enough gear to raid.

Ah good point Muhan. Except that I don't consider my paladin an alt He is.. nor an alt nor my main I'm willing to transfer him because he's getting dusty.

Muhan wrote:

As mentioned before, lets say min level to transfer is 80. Then it realy doesn't matter, right?

I agree but then it comes back to the whole "who supports this movement". We need to get a clear idea on how many of us are willing to transfer.

I think until we see faction change making too much plans is pointless. But if ppl are bored, now would be the time to bring another char to 80, just in case.

In all case I think this can only be interesting if almost everyone playing on CN1 do the move. If it's just another expat guild with 10-12 lv80 that never online at the same time then it's kinda pointless.

So dunno if maybe other players are interested would be nice to drop a word and opinion on this topic.

Pls Check
https://wow-in-chinese.forum2jeux.com/general-f1/gathering-on-the-same-realm-t1840.htm#17085