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From: Globuline
To: Naklin
Posted: Today at 19:38
Subject: comportement

tu sais, les débats avec toi et dead sont un peu trop extrêmes. Ne dis pas que tu ne critiquais pas, je ne parlais pas que de ce post. Mais j'en ai assez, et je ne suis pas la seule ici de vous voir flamber les autres (parce que votre ironie et vos sarcasmes sont très claires). Je ne me sentais pas visée une seule seconde sur ton dernier post puisque je suis comme toi sur ce point, et je n'aime pas voir ces occidentaux traîner dans des bars d'occidentaux, avec des occidentaux, manger occidental ... et sans connaître un seul chinois ni la langue.

Vous avez des hauts standards et une grande morale. Bien. Mais ça vous rend beaucoup trop dur avec les autres. Si vous êtes si ouverts que ça, respectez leurs choix, qui n'en est parfois pas un (Tout le monde ne sait pas forcément lire le chinois donc jouer avec des chinois est exclus pour eux. )

Krokro t'as déjà banni, je pensais que t'avais compris pourquoi.

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Globuline
Warlock 60 trying to get her epic mount at Shanghai 1, MaDuoLan realm - tailor enchant - Chinese version

i won't translate it. its too late, and maybe dead can do it while at work and with 5 free minutes.
i post this here, because i received this tonight, and i rather first off ask within the "small family" of our realm.

if in any way you felt i was flaming you guys, i apologize. i sometimes might tease / "tackle" someone, but hell, flaming is a step way further for me (you have not seen me flame here yet for real. i hope that people will then throw something with arguments back at me and get a thread goign that has more than 4 posts and where people throw opinions and ideas against each other. a thread / forum i can go to 8 times a day and hit refresh and see new posts and reply.

i apologize if someone felt hurt or attacked or worse because of any irony or sarcasm. i did not wish to hurt people.

about being an apparent @#$%#@% and having high standards or whatsoever:
ask most of the people you see online a lot on our server about me. they will know me (same goes for dead). noone will ever tell you i refused anyone on our server, when they asked me for helping them in an instance, finish a quest or help them do whatever.
i do enchants for free, even providing mats for free when i know the person doesn't have any gold for mats and no time IRL to farm it.
and people know how i play. that you might as well be able to ask (goes for dead as well).
alltogether, i dont "look down" upon players who don't have the same "standard". i look down upon those who don't have it, dont try, dont do the effort, but then pretend they have it, yet don't. that i do. i admit.
as for the rest, i dont. but i see no reason why i should get off my horse. it was very hard to get up a reputation and standing on a whole server (dead knows as well). even more being a foreigner amongst chinese.
now, thereofre sometimes i might have a weird tone in some messages.
again: this was not with the intention of making people fed up, feel unconfortable or sad or whatever.

so here is your chance for aodelanke, i wont be angry nor vexed.
let yurself out and comploain, flame and shout at me

OK, I was trying to settle this with privacy....

But I understand why you did it. I would like to close the debate here now if possible.

Your site is called:
" Foreign community at Chinese World of Warcraft "

So, you should accept the fact that a certain amount of WOW players don't think as you do. If this site was just the cow eaters guild forum i wouldn't bother myself posting in it.

I am a foreigner, i play wow in China and i like to share opinions. Even though these opinions differ from yours or the one of kro, this is not a reason for menacing us.

What i was saying is many player don't make an effort to try to play more with Chinese people on WOW and this is a pity. I was like that for 6 months and when i gave it a try, i found a lot of fun doing so.

This is an opinion, and opinions should not be forbidden on a forum.

Now, you got Nak all pissed but as i told him before, he is sometimes "condescendant" and it pisses people off (me, many times)...

Result is that anytime we try to start a debate, you do as much as you can to close it.... This is internet, it's fun not agreeing, forums can be a very good way to communicate if everybody behaves.

Sarcasm is a good way to make your point sometimes. The only thing is to try to not hurt and insult people which i never did

PS: gnomes taste like chicken

Sigh, took me a long time to get the french meaning (high school lessons was a long time ago)....

I have personally not had any condescending chat with either of you, not ingame and not here.
I have the opportunity to moderate this forum if I like, but for TCW guild and forum, I think the style is ok.
Maybe not exactly the language for small children, but certainly not flaming either

This forum is for gaming. not debate about integration problems.

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So, you should accept the fact that a certain amount of WOW players don't think as you do.

That's my point with you.

If you don't like to debate, don't make a forum...

I never talked about integration but i suggest to people that they should try more FB with chinese people.

This forum is for gaming, but when we ask you to add a "wow general topic", you tell us to go to hell....

If it wasn't for a few members that you dislike so much, this forum would have close to zero activity...