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deadanus 
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  Sat 23 Jun 2007 - 5:03  #
Is it possible to play a shadow priest for level up, pvp and 5-10 men without taking meditation...

It would make uber shadow powers accessible just after TBC opening but it might be a dumb idea Sad

Any priest expert have an idea ?
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  Mon 2 Jul 2007 - 3:57  #
Yeah, possible... but not high efficient. AFAIK
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 5:10  #
Can anyone give me a tip of how to kill a shadow priest?

yesterday i was killed (again) 2 times by shadow priest. Me lvl 41 Mage dead and he BL lvl 41 S.priest had 2/3 of life. How come I'm dead and he has almost full life? My manna was much more than his but he managed to kill me twice and than was dancing on my corpse. I was pissed!!!
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 7:58  #
Shadow priest get shadow form at level 40.

to say things simply. run.
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 8:08  #
mage vs. SP (super p**e):
if you ain't level 60, RUN. safest bet.

if you ARE level 60 and you have enough damage output to 1-2 shot him.... try ONE TIME. if that DIDNT work, RUN! you are probably already dotted like hell, so might as well run and pop iceblock when out of range and then continue to blink run.

crappy class....

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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 8:47  #
Shadow priest are so much powerfull?? Mages can't even defeat them ?? Shocked



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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 9:35  #
blink behind him if you see he is casting a long time spell (most likely mind blast) Smile
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 10:25  #
you can kill a shadowpriest as naklin described with max dmg on shortest time possible...if not succeeded --> run Wink If you get him to switch his form for heal you won.

back2topic:
On EU Server I play a Priest as well and I recommend to lvl as full shadow priest (e.g. 11/0/49) but as soon as you reach lvl 70 go back for dis/holy or holy/disc if you wanna go for PvE. In instances like e.g. arcatraz your healoutput will not be enough as a shadow.

for all other instances where you dont need your flying mount or which is not an heroic just leave shadow form, put on your heal gear and you are good to go.

rgds,
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 11:22  #
But, maybe Shadow Priest can do instances as DPS not as HEALER because you said that they can do critical damage Twisted Evil
I am rerolling a shadow priest and I intend to do some instances as DPS...I don't like to heal the group everytime, it's boring for me...



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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 12:45  #
shadowpriest CAN do dmg, but without good equipment you'll never substitute a warlock e.g. in PvE

without tailoring some lvl70 epic stuff you wont reach more thatn appr. +520 spell dmg, whereas a warlock reaches +1200 easily

of course shadowpriests are good for arena pvp where you can get T4 equal equipment.

we can teamup. I wanna do Arena with my Mage here. I think Charly and Weirdal as well. Weirdal will do the healing i believe, so you could stay shadow Smile We may rock the house then Very Happy
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 14:34  #
I will just totally agree with Salino on this, but i cant be bothered to give a proper explanation.
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  Tue 3 Jul 2007 - 21:57  #
except for VICHY....
he is level 60..... priest... in my guild, and... ehum.... has more than 560 spellDAMGAE on his gear....
ehum (again)...
so... he has to get more when he is 70, for sure.....
trust me. i think so.
i dont think any SP will outDMg mages, locks or rogues... but they can deal substantial DMG and be a good utility class to be teamed and help locks with DMG.
if utility classes wouldn't be teamed we could screw pallys... lol
(hopefully we do... but i dont think so *sad*)

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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 4:46  #
Sigh :S

I wanted to post, i totally disagree....

shadow priest in TBC are one of the most demanded class for Raid content. The top guilds, Dnt, Nihilium, you name it, run with 2-3 shadow priest.

They usually end up in the top 10 of the damage meters (because they dont AOE) if no AOR you can be sure they are in the top 5.

However that is not the utility of the priest. the priest regens health and mana, mana being the important one. While doing this they start to generate much more threat. 0.5 for each effective healing done and 0.25 (i think) for each effective mana regened.

but that is the bonus of the shadow priest, mages cannot dps without one, a mages goes OOM in about 5 min, which is a problem if the fight lasts longer. if grouped with healers, they basicly never run out of mana and so on.
Saying Shadow priest are not good in Raid is just pure bullshit.


As for Arena but i'm sorry that's wrong again. Shadow priest are the kings of 2v2, and extremly powerfull in 3v3 but they kind of are worthless in the most important braket the 5v5. holy the best pvp for this. (crit immunity anyone?). If you dont believe me, go and have a look at the top arena teams, look at how many run a shadow priest and how many run holy priest.
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 5:51  #
Now I think PVP is matter of skill too (not only gear).

Yesterday I saw a mage lvl 41 duelling with rogue lvl44, paladin lvl 45, mage lvl46 and even lock lvl 49. He managed to win all duel exept lock with marginal life left. There were 20 guys watching him and applauding in Tanaris and everybody wanted to duel with him. He was like a hot potato. Was amazing!!! I managed to get to fight him (after bloody 30 min waiting) and managed to get only 10% damage. Haha
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 6:11  #
the point after all is:

SP cannot be a healer in 5 ppl Instances like arkatraz or heroics. SP may be a (still poor) substitute for a damage dealer, and this only with good equipment!

SP is certainly of good use for some Raids and are a very welcome shadow dmg bonus for warlocks as well. Besides this, as Taim pointed out, there is the manareg ability for the group.....

Never the less, Priest's are considered a healer class and will never set a even score with a real damagedealer if both have equal equipment.

rgds
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 7:05  #
Shadow priest are Awsome DPS in Raid with equal gear. you are not subpar by any mean.

for exemple have a look at those stats. (those are random one I found). they shadow priest are in crafted gear.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=ho5rlhbe25dlo&m&s=7001-7854

Shadow priest are awsome DPS, their problem lies with threat as they generate more threat than other classes.

100 damage=

100 threat from damage
50 threat from healing ((20 x 5 x0.5) if you heal everybody)
6.25 threat from mana (5 x 5 x0.25)

156.25 * 0.7 = 109.375
while other classes would in general be at 80 threat generated.


now of course with tranquil air and that paladin buff, it's no problem. ^^
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 7:21  #
/subliminal message

Rogues are the real king of DPS

/end of message
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 9:31  #
So my priest should hit 40 in the next couple days, at which point I'll have shadowform, should I continue at that point to put points into shadow or switch to discipline for grinding or what?
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 10:07  #
continue in shadow tree as we already have the new skills available.

My suggestion: KLICK
This is for PvP and Solo Lvl Action

If you are more PvE orientated you should take 3 points out of the discipline tree and invest those in "Shadow Affinity" to reduce your generated threat.


rgds
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 10:16  #
thx for info Smile i'll go think some more with these new info
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  Wed 4 Jul 2007 - 11:59  #
thx!
I was going to assign my shadow talents in an other way but I'll try yours to see if it's working well ^^

@Salino: Unfortunatly I'am rerolling on the Europeans servers...My ping in China is so horrible I don't think I could play any other character than warrior because I don't have to launch cast and the warrior continues to hit aggressively even if I'am lagging and can't do anything...I'll try later to see if the ping get higher but Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad don't think so


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  Thu 5 Jul 2007 - 18:50  #
Mages go sheep right...Smile sheep them then run!, FAST!
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  Thu 5 Jul 2007 - 18:54  #
Taim wrote:
Shadow priest are Awsome DPS in Raid with equal gear. you are not subpar by any mean.

for exemple have a look at those stats. (those are random one I found). they shadow priest are in crafted gear.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=ho5rlhbe25dlo&m&s=7001-7854

Shadow priest are awsome DPS, their problem lies with threat as they generate more threat than other classes.

100 damage=

100 threat from damage
50 threat from healing ((20 x 5 x0.5) if you heal everybody)
6.25 threat from mana (5 x 5 x0.25)

156.25 * 0.7 = 109.375
while other classes would in general be at 80 threat generated.


now of course with tranquil air and that paladin buff, it's no problem. ^^

I recall that priests got a talent to reduce threat? or it only works for healing spells?
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  Fri 6 Jul 2007 - 4:25  #
the one in the shadow tree only works for shadow spell (vampiric embrace included). that is the 0.7 multiplication.

the threat reduction in the discipline talent tree only affects holy spells since 2.1.0 (think)
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