December, 7th 2010

For Mainland China:
Who is willing to transfer to the same realm, so that we can play together?

As StiXx suggested, here is a list of ppl and their characters they would transfer:

Muhan:
lvl 80 Druid
lvl 80 Hunter
lvl 70 Warlock

StiXx:
lvl 80 Hunter

bolomas:
Rogue

stItCh:
lvl 70 Shaman
lvl 71 Priest
lvl 70 Mage
lvl 70 Paladin

Urubaen:
lvl 71 Paladin
lvl 70 Priest

skar:
has to lvl a toon

swankish:
lvl 80 Druid (CN2 realms only)

Crom:
Hunter
lvl 70 Warrior
lvl 70 Druid

Hermann:
lvl 80 Paladin
lvl 80 Rogue

contemptus:
lvl 80 Hunter
Druid

peanutarmy:
has to lvl a toon

satius:
has to lvl a toon

Alliance, Druid, lvl 80, heal & DPS
Alliance, Hunter, lvl 80, DPS
Alliance, Warlock, lvl 70, DPS

Faction change needs to be availabel so I can transfer to Horde side, if we decide on Horde.

IMO min level should be 70 to transfer, so that ppl don't think they are transfering to a realm full of alts

LVL 80 Hunter DPS Horde,

My preference would go to a horde server (the one were horde outnumbers alliance).

Also I suggest getting lvl 80's only since nobody wants to sit idle for 2 months before we can start doing something.

Maybe another point is, i wouldnt mind having some chinese ppl in guild if it benefits raiding aslong as they can speak a little english

I can bring a rogue.

Don't care about faction but would like a pvp server with unbalanced factions so ppl who don't like to be ganked will dare transfer.

My motivation to transfer is proportional with the number of people willing to move.

Lvl 70 shaman Horde
Lvl 71 Priest alliance
Lvl 70 mage alliance
Lvl 70 pala alliance

I prefer to play horde on pvp server with balanced population but wouldn't mind alliance or pve if there is no other option available.

I would transfer my lvl 80 lock only after I see the grouping together works well. Had already the. Experience in Taiwan that people only grouped for a few month and theleft again.

I can bring my level 71 paladin. Can also transfer a level 70 priest.
This is my suggestion: 雷霆之王
Horde side or Alliance doesn't matter since this realm is well-balanced. Otherwise we can try the most Horde popular server, 洛萨

StiXx wrote:

LVL 80 Hunter DPS Horde

Are you sure you're going to transfer Avanti over? The reason why i'm letting my druid stay on BB is so I can keep in touch with our 95 guild.

As i am estimated 4 months away from actually having a toon in that level range you can count me out.

However I am interested to where you guys move so i can at least chat during lvling .

Guys about pvp realm you really have to think far. It's about having as much people as possible at the same address.

People who don't like pvp won't like being on a balanced pvp server. That's why it will only work if we choose an unbalanced pvp server and go in the most populated faction.

In Taiwan it worked pretty well, never heard anyone complain about being harassed, and nobody complained about pve server being boring as hell.

yup that works pretty well @bolo did the same thing in EU/Azshara with Alliance.

This for TW or CN?

I am willing, but unfortunately, only if its on a Ch2 realm hah. I can bet that some of the others on my realm would be ok with that too.

lvl 80 feral/resto drood, lvl 1 pally bank spec

hi there, that's for C WOW ? or TW WOW ?

Cata open tomorrow on TW right ?

thanks

Sup wrote:

This for TW or CN?

pouetp0u wrote:

hi there, that's for C WOW ? or TW WOW ?

Cata open tomorrow on TW right ?

thanks

Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. I changed the post title.

You might think i'm a little nuts for saying this but i like being on an underdog realm. It makes world PvP so much better and challenging when everyone is attackable. I understand that most people would disagree with me, but I wouldn't want to be on a side that dominates the other in numbers. I really hate how the majority of people treat the minority. A balanced realm would be the optimal choice IMO. It provides a good economy, raids, and an exciting environment for PvP. What's the point in playing on a PvP server anyways if there's nobody to kill?

I'd be willing to move my main(hunter), as well as some other lv.70 toons scattered on servers (druid, warrior), to a decently balanced PvP server no problem. Horde or Alliance doesn't matter to me.

Urubaen wrote:

I can bring my level 71 paladin. Can also transfer a level 70 priest.
This is my suggestion: 雷霆之王
Horde side or Alliance doesn't matter since this realm is well-balanced. Otherwise we can try the most Horde popular server, 洛萨

StiXx wrote:

LVL 80 Hunter DPS Horde

Are you sure you're going to transfer Avanti over? The reason why i'm letting my druid stay on BB is so I can keep in touch with our 95 guild.

Unlike others here I only have a 80 hunter my alt would be a lvl 21 shaman and a lvl 20 paladin on ma duo lan, but if im gonna transfer that it would suck, I mean better to keep everything level 80 maybe i can lvl one in the time it takes for this movement to come.

As i see from all the post up here I think we can say to go for this realm 雷霆之王 and then horde side. Unless there is anyone who really doesnt agree on this...

I agree with Uru and Avanti, 雷霆之王 sounds like a good choice.

Yeah Crom I understand what you mean. Once I played on a perfectly balanced pvp server and it was the best pvp fun I had in this game. When you met a guy of the other faction you would ALWAYS attack each other but it was always balanced.
Can still remember those fights on the sunwell island, even if you went for the dailies at first, it was more fun to join those groups fighting against each other.

If it's a balanced pvp server I'd be more than happy. But then you'll have to convince the guys who don't wont to corpse run from time to time.

Also one more Thing. I don't really know where all the mainland servers are, but maybe there's a zone that can provide an ok ping for both ppl actually playing on CN1 and CN2, a crossroad if you want. That could be something worth looking at too. I don't care not having 50ms ping if it means having much more players to play with.

I do see the logic in your thinking Bol but I'm not sure it's worth it to choose a place that most people don't really care much for, just for the "if's and maybe's" people. Getting the main, die-hard CWoW foreigners together on a realm they would enjoy is definitely something worth considering.

Since were only with 6 now lets wait a little to see what other want if there are

Yeah, you're right Avanti. I'll talk to some of the others in BB and see what they think about it.

Crom wrote:

I do see the logic in your thinking Bol but I don't think it's worth it for the "if's and maybe's" people. Getting the main, die-hard CWoW foreigners together on a realm they would enjoy is definitely something worth considering.

So to be die-hard CWoW foreigners you need to love PVP servers?
I guess anyone else is not welcome then.

Why you all so selfish? mimimi "Well if you don't choose a PVP server I'm not coming."

only difference in PVE and PVP is that you can attack the other faction in most places.
I played on PVP servers and IMO a PVP server is cool for those at lvl80 with PVP gear ganking a lower level. That's all, the rest, Arena, BG, raid etc is the same as on a PVE server.

I didn't know that this point is all about the game and if it is not there than certain ppl will not come.

Maybe you should consider that there are different ppl with differnt likes. If the ppl who don't like PVP servers agree to come and gather on a PVP server than you all should at least make some comittments too.

muhan i dont think crom ment it like that...

Lets first gets some more players and see what the majority wants and how the rest can cope to it.

All we're trying to do is find out who is interested in this idea and where they would like to go. So far, the people who have posted here have expressed interest in jumping over to a PvP server. Nobody ever said anything about "Well if you don't choose a PvP server I'm not coming" Our discussion is about if we choose a PvP server, which PvP server would we choose. That is all.

Like Avanti said, we need to wait for more people to post a response in order to properly decide on which realm would be best suited for ALL the people who have expressed interest in the idea.

I think this thread is limited to region 1 because most of us
play region one servers. Questions are:

Are you allowed to transfer between pvp and pve servers?
Some say faction changes are allowed? Confirmation?

I think the four questions are thus,

What is the best alliance pvE server:
Well, duh this madoulan
What is the best horde pvE server:
We have a few level 70 hordes on madoulan but I don't
know of an active English guild on horde/pvE region 1.
What is the best horde pvP server:
If not BB where?
What is the best alliance pvP server:
If BB isnt good for horde, must be good for alliance?

I think considering there is 4 results, it's going to be difficult to gather people up on one server, especially when I hear things like "I can only play horde PVP" although, it would be super awesome to do so. Anyways, come make a DK on madoulan while you guys decide what to do.

WoW LaoWai i take it from your post you are also interrested to move to another realm together if so pvp would be acceptable for you and which characters??


Lets not get too offtopic here the original post was with the only point to see who is interrested ( your char name you want to move, server pvp or not, faction horde or alliance )

if you wanne discuss details maybe go to the other post where it was first mentioned to do so?


Or maybe make a new post with the only replies allowed those to the questiones asked in the first post and use this post for discussing??
this post is getting a bit unclear and messsy

I guess you missed the words
"Open points to discuss" in the OP.

I am sorry about the confusion in my post, Muhan. I think this is a great idea to get everybody here finally together. And like you said, "Why you all so selfish?", is exactly the point I'm trying to get across as well. If somebody doesn't want to join because they have to ghost run every once in a while, why should we all make compensation for that? But if most people felt that they don't want to ghost run every once in a while, why should you compensate for me? I won't be that selfish and not join. I enjoy playing with you guys and it doesn't matter to me if we ultimately decide on PvP or PvE. But I do want to have the best game experience possible for everyone who does decide to go.

Btw, there are more differences than that in PvE. I leveled two 70 toons on a PvE server here and found that the environment was too "friendly" for two factions who were at war with each other. Horde and Alliance players actually helped each other out with questing and stuff. Why not just eliminate the opposing faction and have everybody set as one? At least now you could interact with each other. Just my 2 cents.

Hey Guys,

i am always willing to change to a server which is
1st high populated and
2nd enough of us foreigners on it.
Since Nov 2009 I have changed servers 3 times to follow u guys and in the end everything shattered.
I would prefer HORDE and I can offer Lvl 80 Pala (T & DPS), Lvl 80 Rogue (bad ass dps) and serval 70s from mage to warrior.
Q: How is this handeled with the char transfer? Is it possible now in CHina? Doesnt matter paid or not.

CUTUOPEN ANTIPALA HEXHEX

Sure it will be nice if ppl can finaly gather together.
But just as Bolo mentioned it will not realy be worth it if only 10 ppl join. It will just be another foreign guild.

why not all come back to TW servers for CATA release tomorrow ?

that's just a suggestion since a nex content will be disponible tomorrow overthere...

I'm not able to play with my MAC on China Mainland servers for the moment, due to a lack of information for MAC users on WOW mainland...

I could play on mainland when I get back my French PC, it means after the 3rd of January.
But I could be busy play on TW servers for WOW CATA content till it arrive in CHINA...


Char name on TW SERVER where AGNS guild is/was:
MS: 沒有問題

Perso I don't see the point transferring on a pve realm, caus maduolan just do the same as any other pve realm. PVE world PVP is dead the day blizzard introduced Battlegrounds in the game.

I think also there's a lot of false stories about PVP realms. First of all balanced pvp servers often lead to balanced pvp situations. It's on unbalanced pvp servers where you do your dailies and suddenly one guy attack you and the other guys around join him to finish you. Also you can always group with some buddies to do dailies, to respond hard to any attacks. That's the way it's done on pvp realms.

Personally I will only consider a transfer if the new realm brings something more than the current realms I'm playing on, and if the majority of players on CN1 decide to invest some time there. Because right now Bronzebeard gives me an unique opportunity to experience raiding in a guild of dedicated players, and maduolan gives me the opportunity to enjoy an expat group atmosphere, with lively chat and casual raiding.

Hi all. I have rarely messaged on this site as I play on a realm where I am the only foreigner (very friendly chinese there though) but I often read what everyone is writing about. I personally am happy to move to any type of realm. Although I am used to pvp and playing horde I am happy to faction change and transfer if it means getting to have a good solid guild going preferably with an intent to down lich king when he shows his face. (I might need help later on with working out how to do the faction change and transfer hehe).

My best geared character is "Dunno" (lvl 80 Hunter) horde on the kelthuzad server or my favourite but weaker geared Druid "laowaidruid" (No raid experience with my druid) either I will transfer. I will keep an eye on the forums and wait and see how things turn out. I am hoping that everyone can make some accomodations so that can get alot of people into 1 server. Or 1 of the existing guilds can be agreed on as a go to place for transfers.

Hi there,
nice you post once in while. (this is supposed to be a positive comment)

So, since you read the posts here on the forum, you know I am the bad guy on this forum, who allways bitches around.
Guess it's like a PVP server here, you never know when someone will attack you...


Back to topic:

contemptus wrote:

Or 1 of the existing guilds can be agreed on as a go to place for transfers.

I guess this might be an option we all should take into consideration.

Guys, please lets make this no more complicated then it all has to be and just start off with who is interested as soon as we got a decent group of ppl ( 20 or so ) then we can go on to the next step what kind of server...

Getting yourself all wind up about these details that seem to change every min is no use and is getting us no where.

Also as Laowai mentioned above can anyone answer this:
Are you allowed to transfer between pvp and pve servers?

yeah pvp to pve and pve to pvp are all ok.

cool,

I suggest we do like this,

Step 1: this post everyone can leave their char name to see if your interrested only, maybe muhan can edit the first post to put everyone there. if we have enough move to step 2

Step 2: we make a new post with a poll where everyone can vote if you want pve or pvp dont leave a comment since the discussion is pointess and make it more complicated just see what the most votes will be. after we get all the votes in move to step 3

Step 3: we make a new post with another poll stating:

if pvp would be the winner of the poll in step2 what kind of balance more of our faction or equal or use an existing realm (3options).

if pve wins a poll for using a new server or existing one.

Step 4: after the votes for those polls are in we make 1 last post with a vote for which faction horde or alliance..

I take in this way we dont have an endless argument with each other but just clear results of what the majority wants. on what the majority wants we can see who wants to go with us or decides not to. (Or who is to sellfish to adjust whatever you like to call it )..

@ StiXx: Sounds good.

First post is changed, I will update accordingly. If any one needs changes, let me know.

As a side note:
Since some have characters on Horde and some have characters on Alliance side, they would use for transfering, we probably need to wait for faction change to be available to gather.

Awesome:)

Also as point i want to add I know there are flaws to this method but we just have to trust everyone to think as a community to make this happen...

So I sincerely would ask everyone that if we are to the point to choose servers etc.. choose that which you can live / play with and not what you would most want. think about what others want aswell take all the above comments into consideration.

after all if we want to make this work we have to do it together

ok, ok I will stop bitching and think for the community

Finally the peace-talks arrive! What's the deal with PVE/PVP anyways? Who cares about that as long as it's balanced?

The server I suggested is 54% horde if I remember , you won't get dominated, we'll dominate them Anyhow, we need way more people to agree to this, 20 isn't even enough for a 25 man raid! (hur dur) I suggest a sticky, and a link in signature!

Uru don't expect a 25man expat guild ever unless lots of chinese speaking english join as well.

Meh. It's not like Wotlk's highest raids are only 25 man..

Cant say i am truely for a transfer unless all of the Crazies on ALterc are in.

We are Hoarde and we PVE a lot now, with some wanting more PVP <---me.

PVP server. Pretty balanced, favouring the Horde a little more. Medium Pop realm.

I will let the guys know to come and look and post their thoughts. 6 active english players, 3 chinese guildies,,, lots of friends in other guilds now.

Not sure how many "foreigners" are into this cwow but my first impression was that everybody counts. a wow community does need some critical mass and activity to run.

we should try to focus on one server if we are indeed in total only few players.

ok, easy for me to say with not speaking a word chinese and no high lvl char .

StiXx wrote:

cool,

I suggest we do like this,

Step 1: this post everyone can leave their char name to see if your interrested only, maybe muhan can edit the first post to put everyone there. if we have enough move to step 2

Step 2: we make a new post with a poll where everyone can vote if you want pve or pvp dont leave a comment since the discussion is pointess and make it more complicated just see what the most votes will be. after we get all the votes in move to step 3

Step 3: we make a new post with another poll stating:

if pvp would be the winner of the poll in step2 what kind of balance more of our faction or equal or use an existing realm (3options).

if pve wins a poll for using a new server or existing one.

Step 4: after the votes for those polls are in we make 1 last post with a vote for which faction horde or alliance..

I take in this way we dont have an endless argument with each other but just clear results of what the majority wants. on what the majority wants we can see who wants to go with us or decides not to. (Or who is to sellfish to adjust whatever you like to call it )..

Seems that some want to stay where they are and have others come to their place, due to different reasons.

The transfer option is a possibility to be able to gather on one realm, be it Alliance/Horde, PVE/PVP, new realm/existing realm.

So post if you wana gather. If enough ppl are willing to transfer, THEN we can choose were to play.

Honestly I do not see the point why ppl would post looking for others to come to their place in the moment.

If ppl are realy wanting to be together, then ALL should make committments, if not then just forget the whole thing.
In that case continue to play where ever you are, but please don't come to the forum and mimimi about only having 5 foreigners playing where you are.

FYI our guild is opening up

https://wow-in-chinese.forum2jeux.com/shanghai-1997828023-1-guangdong-24191199964-area-2130610-f6/horde-pve-guild-cn1-alterac-valley-22885293052084820811-recuritment-t1845.htm

Well doesn't seem to work the way it was inteded, so I guess anyone who wants to, can choose an existing guild and transfer there.

For all who didn't know check the following thread to see where to play:
https://wow-in-chinese.forum2jeux.com/general-f1/don-t-know-where-to-play-read-memainland-servers-only-t1514.htm


There are just not enough willing to move to one place.
Sad, because this would have been an oportunity for many to gather.
Many have posted in the past, that it would be nice to be able to play together, but because transfer options wasn't available we were all scattered around.
Now transfer options are available and we fail again. We still will be scattered around.
As long as ppl don't sacrifice and give up on certain things it will never be possible to gather together.
Comments like this show the attitude which is the reason, why it will not work:

Gavy wrote:

we are all die hard horde player so no matter what we will not change side...

Just a note!

Now with this guild advertising in this thread, there might be a bigger group that will gather there, but isn't that what we allready have on BB or Maduolan?
There will just be another foreign guild.
Ppl who have been playing for years in China know, that most created guilds have fallen apart. Then they start again and fall apart.
Guess thats just what will happen in the future aswell.
Way to go Gavy...

Muhan be more patient, for now faction change isn't even available, so even if we already decided about a destination we would not be able to gather everyone.

This is NOT over yet. This is what we've been waiting for. All of the foreigners from this community demanded back then, that we all gather. Some of us are even making great sacrifices so that this can be ensured (muhan with his transfer of 4 high level characters, stixx transferring his only 80), and now you're complaining? If you're going to post just to advertise for your server and for the sake of +1's, then I'm sorry but gtfo. This isn't about you, this is about us as the most prominent foreigner community for WoW in China. Sure you play however you like, but next time don't come whining to us about how little you are, and start promoting your guild.

Purpose is to get everybody together, hence the many sacrifices. I may be only transferring a small level 71 and 70 but if the new server succeeds I'd be willing to transfer my main even.

If you start whining about how BB and Maduolan are taking members away from other servers, than I will clash you. We've failed at regrouping so many times it's painful; Maduolan members and BB members hardly know each other except for a few, in fact, we don't even know each other sometimes on this forum. Gathering together is a new opportunity for us.

Once again, if you start posting for the sake of +1's and adding no relevent discussion, might as well not speak. This is all about dedication, willingness. If we can't even grasp that, WTF is the point of our foreigner community?